Comments on: Occam’s Razor Is Rusty

By: dillinger23

dillinger23 — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 20:53:59 +0000

The real issue is these fuckwits and their statement "apple never said what private framework" it's using.

Really? REARRY? You fucking morons know EXACTLY which private framework it's using because you FUCKING HUNTED IT DOWN AND IMPLEMENTED IT.

Jesus fucking wolly mammoth people are dumb.

By: Sigivald

Sigivald — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 17:41:59 +0000

First of all, Apple doesn't give a shit about games and never have.

Well, I don't think you can say that now, since they're pushing the Touch as a gaming device.

They don't care about games-qua-games. They sure as hell care about games "getting us sales".

By: Shawn L.

Shawn L. — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 00:26:05 +0000

Here's the problem with Occam's Razor: some people believe that sinister intent IS the simplest answer. It's how some people see bad government, not as incompetence or some flaw in a system, but an intended result of someone or some group's machinations.

Of course, such results only from using the quest for a simple answer. Occam's Razor needs to be preceded by facts and logic. In these cases something resembling "facts and logic" only get applied after the conclusion has been made, to try and prop up the predetermined answer in arguments.

By: jamesbailey

jamesbailey — Mon, 08 Mar 2010 22:30:27 +0000

>Anyway, when I presented the argument that way, I shut the guy up.

Really? That doesn’t sound too likely.

By: Paul A. Chapel

Paul A. Chapel — Mon, 08 Mar 2010 19:58:11 +0000

I had the same Occam's Razor conversation with someone who swore to me that Apple was blocking Flash because they didn't want people playing free games on the internet and wanted them to instead, pay for games in the App Store. First of all, Apple doesn't give a shit about games and never have. Secondly, there are ALREADY free games in the App Store, so why would Apple care about people playing free games on the internet? Third, Flash was banned from the iPhone a year and half before there was ever an App Store.

When I countered with these arguments, the person in question exploded with all these conspiracies about Steve Jobs and the App Store. I stopped him with this simple observation: Steve Jobs is the same guy who killed the Floppy on the iMac, who wouldn't support WMAs in iTunes, who wouldn't even give us an ethernet port or more than one USB port for the MacBook Air.

Knowing all that, is it more reasonable to assume that Steve Jobs just doesn't like Flash because he thinks it's outdated and buggy and resource intensive (as he admitted in private conversations) or is it more reasonable to assume he doesn't like Flash because he has a sinister plot to make money in the App Store (which is stupid because Apple makes their money from the hardware not the content)?

Anyway, when I presented the argument that way, I shut the guy up.

By: mangochutney

mangochutney — Mon, 08 Mar 2010 19:10:31 +0000

I realise that and it makes me a sad sad panda.
Your first point translates into people being the greedy fucktards they are.
Your second point shows that we all will get old and dull-witted, seeing as (probably) formerly forward thinking people can't recognise technological evolution/innovation anymore.

By: The Angry Drunk

The Angry Drunk — Mon, 08 Mar 2010 19:00:19 +0000

See, the thing is, while I pretty much agree with everything you wrote, it just doesn't matter. There is literally no move that Apple can make that won't bring out the morally bankrupt tools who know that they can make a quick adsense buck from trashing it.

Not to mention that we're stuck with 25 years of 'spergeridden nerds who just can't grasp the fact that a publicly traded corporation can't be defined by the categories on a D&D character sheet and who eat those posts up.

By: mangochutney

mangochutney — Mon, 08 Mar 2010 18:50:07 +0000

The problem is that it partly is Apple's mistake, this kind of non-news exists in the first place, but it's a mistake that should be understandable to an intelligent person. Let me explain:

Apple is now starting to systematically enforce the rules they have set for apps, which pisses people off, because the apps were approved in the first place, I get this.
But Apple was and is in the process of learning how to maintain a so far unseen method of software distribution, all while having to adhere to their brand's high standards.
No other company had the brains to do something like this before, there was no empirical data to guide Apple, no company to buy-up who had experience with this kind of product.
It is understandable — to me at least — that Apple made mistakes and will continue to make some.

As far as I can tell, the rules haven't even become that much more strict in the two and a half years since the introduction of the app store; only use public APIs, offensive/illegal stuff is prohibited, don't duplicate core functions, etc.
It doesn't surprise me, that some programmers are trying to test how far they can go, using private frameworks (in the case above I'd guess it was something like a passive scanning mode) and trying to bend some of the rules in their favour.
But those people should be equally unsurprised if Apple tells them to GTFO.

I'm in favour of Apple scouring the AppStore. No more riff-raff, no more fucking fart apps, no more amateurishly put-together apps showing nudity, no more idiotic ebook apps that try to make people buy public domain books… — I could go on.

By: Jack Brewster

Jack Brewster — Mon, 08 Mar 2010 17:59:32 +0000

Sounds like a good ytmnd.com site idea.