Zero Tolerance (FOAGOMP)

I’m declar­ing a zero tol­er­ance pol­icy towards the will­fully igno­rant, the ter­mi­nally self absorbed, and the crim­i­nally self­ish. To take a page from the author David Brin, I am part of a civ­i­liza­tion, and so are you. What does that mean? It means that respond­ing to the issues of the day with facile responses such as “the government’s always been cor­rupt,” or “why bother the elec­tion is fixed,” or sim­i­lar tripe is no longer accept­able. Slightly more accept­able is com­men­tary that ade­quately exposes the com­menter as being an dick, who’s only out for their own inter­ests. Such peo­ple are evil; but mock­ing them amuses me. In short, if you aren’t ready to join the rest of the human race, Fuck Off And Get Off My Planet.

  • John Galt

    You have just declared your­self to be evil by claim­ing that some peo­ple must live for your sake. Fucking lib­er­als. So typ­i­cal, you abuse and impov­er­ish peo­ple and round around with feath­ers up your butt claim­ing to be “self­less”. I’ll take some­one who rec­og­nizes they are self­ish over your denials anyday.

    You and your kind killed 100 mil­lion peo­ple last cen­tury… when are you going to learn your lesson?

    Zero Tolerance is right, you’re off my feed.

  • John Galt

    You have just declared your­self to be evil by claim­ing that some peo­ple must live for your sake. Fucking lib­er­als. So typ­i­cal, you abuse and impov­er­ish peo­ple and round around with feath­ers up your butt claim­ing to be “self­less”. I’ll take some­one who rec­og­nizes they are self­ish over your denials anyday.

    You and your kind killed 100 mil­lion peo­ple last cen­tury… when are you going to learn your lesson?

    Zero Tolerance is right, you’re off my feed.

  • John Galt v2

    I agree with first John. Why should I work for you? I don’t ask any­thing of any­one else other than not to tram­ple on my Constitutional rights. None of these require me to take care of every­one else. You, how­ever, expect me to give the fruits of my labor to you and yours. This is not a human­ity issue, it is a con­trol issue. You want to con­trol me. You want me to believe what­ever you say with no evi­dence (or at best spu­ri­ous evi­dence). You are the one telling me to get off the planet.

    Excuse me, YOUR planet. Just how big is your head?

    I’ve had it with your vent­ing, the title of your blog now seems astute. You’re off my feed too.

  • John Galt v2

    I agree with first John. Why should I work for you? I don’t ask any­thing of any­one else other than not to tram­ple on my Constitutional rights. None of these require me to take care of every­one else. You, how­ever, expect me to give the fruits of my labor to you and yours. This is not a human­ity issue, it is a con­trol issue. You want to con­trol me. You want me to believe what­ever you say with no evi­dence (or at best spu­ri­ous evi­dence). You are the one telling me to get off the planet.

    Excuse me, YOUR planet. Just how big is your head?

    I’ve had it with your vent­ing, the title of your blog now seems astute. You’re off my feed too.

  • Gatesbasher

    @ John Galt 1 & 2 (If you are in fact two people.)

    “Fucking lib­er­als”, is it? You are Goddamned shit-eating Fascist but­t­fuck­ers, and if there was any way to send a million-volt charge back down the line you sent this fuck­ing crap in on, I’d love to hear you siz­zle until you were the black­ened, charred masses of shit you deserve to be. YOUR kind killed 100 mil­lion peo­ple last cen­tury, and then you put that fuck­ing piece of dis­eased smegma Dubya in the White House to see how many more HE could kill! Eat shit and die, and get the Hell off my planet, too!

  • Gatesbasher

    @ John Galt 1 & 2 (If you are in fact two people.)

    “Fucking lib­er­als”, is it? You are Goddamned shit-eating Fascist but­t­fuck­ers, and if there was any way to send a million-volt charge back down the line you sent this fuck­ing crap in on, I’d love to hear you siz­zle until you were the black­ened, charred masses of shit you deserve to be. YOUR kind killed 100 mil­lion peo­ple last cen­tury, and then you put that fuck­ing piece of dis­eased smegma Dubya in the White House to see how many more HE could kill! Eat shit and die, and get the Hell off my planet, too!

  • http://www.barrimond.com/robert R.oB.

    Amen brother Angry! Ever since the birth of my son, I’ve had less an less tol­er­ance for ide­ol­ogy whose sole pur­pose is to jus­tify self­ish­ness or a sense of self-righteousness. As a com­mit­ted dis­ci­ple of Jesus, it par­tic­u­larly incenses me when The Big J’s or G’s name is dropped in ser­vice of that.

  • http://www.barrimond.com/robert R.oB.

    Amen brother Angry! Ever since the birth of my son, I’ve had less an less tol­er­ance for ide­ol­ogy whose sole pur­pose is to jus­tify self­ish­ness or a sense of self-righteousness. As a com­mit­ted dis­ci­ple of Jesus, it par­tic­u­larly incenses me when The Big J’s or G’s name is dropped in ser­vice of that.

  • Joe

    You guys crack me up. The fact is I will get the “Fuck off your blog if you want”, but because I dis­agree with you I will not get the fuck off the planet. Selfish bas­tards… you call your­self lib­eral. I’d be curi­ous to know how much time each of you spend vol­un­teer­ing to help the poor and how much of your income you give away each year.

    I would also be inter­ested to know if you can explain how we are going to, with­ing 4 years, insure 47 mil­lion more peo­ple, which would require an addi­tional 100,000 doc­tors to do with­out chang­ing the load. I think health care needs to be fixed, but if you think Obama is going to do it in 4 years, do your home­work. We are only going to add 90,000 doc­tors through nor­mal activ­i­ties in the next 10 years and they will only make up for the ones that are retir­ing or dying.

    Same with stop­ping the export­ing of our jobs. This didn’t just start under Bush and it won’t end until Obama. How many times have you “bought American” instead of buy­ing the cheap­est prod­uct avail­able? Do you buy organic local grown pro­duce or do you go to gro­cery store and buy the stuff that was picked by for­eign­ers or came from south­ern amer­ica, all the while com­plain­ing about the price. Do you only eat straw­ber­ries when they are in sea­son and grown in America or all year long.

    Yeah let’s take care of every­one too. I went to col­lege and have worked my ass off for the past 20 years, but it makes sense for me to give up more and more of my income to take care of the peo­ple that don’t give a shit. FUCK THAT!

  • Joe

    You guys crack me up. The fact is I will get the “Fuck off your blog if you want”, but because I dis­agree with you I will not get the fuck off the planet. Selfish bas­tards… you call your­self lib­eral. I’d be curi­ous to know how much time each of you spend vol­un­teer­ing to help the poor and how much of your income you give away each year.

    I would also be inter­ested to know if you can explain how we are going to, with­ing 4 years, insure 47 mil­lion more peo­ple, which would require an addi­tional 100,000 doc­tors to do with­out chang­ing the load. I think health care needs to be fixed, but if you think Obama is going to do it in 4 years, do your home­work. We are only going to add 90,000 doc­tors through nor­mal activ­i­ties in the next 10 years and they will only make up for the ones that are retir­ing or dying.

    Same with stop­ping the export­ing of our jobs. This didn’t just start under Bush and it won’t end until Obama. How many times have you “bought American” instead of buy­ing the cheap­est prod­uct avail­able? Do you buy organic local grown pro­duce or do you go to gro­cery store and buy the stuff that was picked by for­eign­ers or came from south­ern amer­ica, all the while com­plain­ing about the price. Do you only eat straw­ber­ries when they are in sea­son and grown in America or all year long.

    Yeah let’s take care of every­one too. I went to col­lege and have worked my ass off for the past 20 years, but it makes sense for me to give up more and more of my income to take care of the peo­ple that don’t give a shit. FUCK THAT!

  • Gatesbasher

    @ Joe:

    Doctors, your ass! If the med­ical indus­try would stop mak­ing most of their obscene prof­its from charg­ing peo­ple (or their insur­ance com­pa­nies) ridicu­lous amounts of money for exper­i­men­tal treat­ments for ail­ments like can­cer that they have no idea how to treat, and actu­ally pro­vide basic health care, they’d have plenty of resources. Instead, they fuck up every­thing they touch. I’ve watched them mur­der sev­eral peo­ple in my imme­di­ate fam­ily with their “atro­cious exper­i­ments;” at least Mengele didn’t charge his vic­tims! THEN: Science (REAL Science, NOT med­i­cine) handed them human Tumor Necrosis Factor on a sil­ver plat­ter, and they some­how man­aged to make it not work. MOUSE TNF works on mice, but that’s because they don’t have doctors!

    Oh, yeah, blame the “lib­er­als” for Wal-Mart and an American lifestyle based on Chinese prison labor: that makes a lot of sense. It wasn’t Dubya who said “out­sourc­ing is a good thing.” Oh, wait a minute: yes, it was!

    I’m glad you won the lotto of life and got to go to col­lege and work at a good job for 20 years to get to where you are today, but let me tell you some­thing, sonny boy, there are peo­ple out there lit­er­ally work­ing them­selves to death for not nearly enough to live on, and any­one who sug­gests that any­one who works full time should make at least enough to have a roof over their heads is labeled a Communist. I know, though, their bad luck makes them a lesser breed who deserve no con­sid­er­a­tion from aris­to­crats such as your­self! FUCK THAT!

  • Gatesbasher

    @ Joe:

    Doctors, your ass! If the med­ical indus­try would stop mak­ing most of their obscene prof­its from charg­ing peo­ple (or their insur­ance com­pa­nies) ridicu­lous amounts of money for exper­i­men­tal treat­ments for ail­ments like can­cer that they have no idea how to treat, and actu­ally pro­vide basic health care, they’d have plenty of resources. Instead, they fuck up every­thing they touch. I’ve watched them mur­der sev­eral peo­ple in my imme­di­ate fam­ily with their “atro­cious exper­i­ments;” at least Mengele didn’t charge his vic­tims! THEN: Science (REAL Science, NOT med­i­cine) handed them human Tumor Necrosis Factor on a sil­ver plat­ter, and they some­how man­aged to make it not work. MOUSE TNF works on mice, but that’s because they don’t have doctors!

    Oh, yeah, blame the “lib­er­als” for Wal-Mart and an American lifestyle based on Chinese prison labor: that makes a lot of sense. It wasn’t Dubya who said “out­sourc­ing is a good thing.” Oh, wait a minute: yes, it was!

    I’m glad you won the lotto of life and got to go to col­lege and work at a good job for 20 years to get to where you are today, but let me tell you some­thing, sonny boy, there are peo­ple out there lit­er­ally work­ing them­selves to death for not nearly enough to live on, and any­one who sug­gests that any­one who works full time should make at least enough to have a roof over their heads is labeled a Communist. I know, though, their bad luck makes them a lesser breed who deserve no con­sid­er­a­tion from aris­to­crats such as your­self! FUCK THAT!

  • JOhn

    Galts 1&2: Where the Fuck did you come from? Ever con­sider learn­ing to read for comprehension?

    Anyway, no you may not build a smelter next to my house and require me to sue you AFTER my fam­ily is poisoned.

    Any lib­er­tar­ian who doesn’t under­stand the mean­ing of the word “soci­ety” can just FOAGOMP too. We’re not going to let you fuck­ers piss on the entire notion of a soci­ety, sim­ply because you want more money.

    WE killed 100 mil­lion? Because WE refused them med­ical care so we could buy another Hummer? You don’t like this place, go live some­where else, like Zimbabwe, where the “gov­ern­ment” will leave you alone.…if you pay them enough. Or maybe Burma.

    Anyway, NONE of this is apro­pos of the OP.

  • JOhn

    Galts 1&2: Where the Fuck did you come from? Ever con­sider learn­ing to read for comprehension?

    Anyway, no you may not build a smelter next to my house and require me to sue you AFTER my fam­ily is poisoned.

    Any lib­er­tar­ian who doesn’t under­stand the mean­ing of the word “soci­ety” can just FOAGOMP too. We’re not going to let you fuck­ers piss on the entire notion of a soci­ety, sim­ply because you want more money.

    WE killed 100 mil­lion? Because WE refused them med­ical care so we could buy another Hummer? You don’t like this place, go live some­where else, like Zimbabwe, where the “gov­ern­ment” will leave you alone.…if you pay them enough. Or maybe Burma.

    Anyway, NONE of this is apro­pos of the OP.

  • Joe

    Ok, so the prob­lems are the greedy doc­tors. Hmm, how is a politi­cian going to change that. Throw them all out and star over. I don’t think I blamed the lib­er­als for out­sourc­ing jobs, I said what are you doing about it, you didn’t answer me! Why have a com­ments sec­tion if you are not going to read what peo­ple write?

    I didn’t win the lotto of life, my dad grew up in a one room house in a rural town, dropped our of school and went to work, where he worked his ass off, man­ual labor, showed up for word every day and did so until he had a heart attack. He saved his money, didn’t piss it away and lived in the same house, and still does, so that he could help his kids do well.

    Now we’ve worked our ass off and are try­ing to install the same beliefs into our kids.

    Also you didn’t answer any of my other ques­tions I posed. Buck up and stop curs­ing as a way our.

    The fact is I believe that we should take care of peo­ple and pro­vide basic needs for every­one, but I don’t believe we should pro­vide every­thing for every­one. And I don’t think that peo­ple that make over 250,000 a year should have the bur­den for every­one else.

  • Joe

    Ok, so the prob­lems are the greedy doc­tors. Hmm, how is a politi­cian going to change that. Throw them all out and star over. I don’t think I blamed the lib­er­als for out­sourc­ing jobs, I said what are you doing about it, you didn’t answer me! Why have a com­ments sec­tion if you are not going to read what peo­ple write?

    I didn’t win the lotto of life, my dad grew up in a one room house in a rural town, dropped our of school and went to work, where he worked his ass off, man­ual labor, showed up for word every day and did so until he had a heart attack. He saved his money, didn’t piss it away and lived in the same house, and still does, so that he could help his kids do well.

    Now we’ve worked our ass off and are try­ing to install the same beliefs into our kids.

    Also you didn’t answer any of my other ques­tions I posed. Buck up and stop curs­ing as a way our.

    The fact is I believe that we should take care of peo­ple and pro­vide basic needs for every­one, but I don’t believe we should pro­vide every­thing for every­one. And I don’t think that peo­ple that make over 250,000 a year should have the bur­den for every­one else.

  • Wrinkle_In_Time

    What amuses me most is the num­ber of com­menters above who self-identify with:

    1) Being Conservative or Libertarian (at least not a “Fucking Liberal”). 2) The Angry Drunk’s phrase “the will­fully igno­rant, the ter­mi­nally self absorbed, and the crim­i­nally selfish”.

    Way to rein­force the point, guys. Remember, if you’re not part of the solu­tion, you’re part of the precipitate.

  • Wrinkle_In_Time

    What amuses me most is the num­ber of com­menters above who self-identify with:

    1) Being Conservative or Libertarian (at least not a “Fucking Liberal”). 2) The Angry Drunk’s phrase “the will­fully igno­rant, the ter­mi­nally self absorbed, and the crim­i­nally selfish”.

    Way to rein­force the point, guys. Remember, if you’re not part of the solu­tion, you’re part of the precipitate.

  • http://ripragged.blogspot.com Anonymous

    Hmmm.

    Wow. A lot of energy here. I read the orig­i­nal post and thought, “Yeah, okay. Fuck the retards who can’t engage in a rea­son­able dis­cus­sion.” Then there fol­lows a whole litany of anger (from peo­ple who seem to fit the bill).

    I come down on the con­ser­v­a­tive side of most polit­i­cal dis­cus­sions (not all, but most); that said, I get just as pissed at being called a con­ser­v­a­tive as a lib­eral. I notice that once peo­ple accept a label like that, they tend to stop think­ing for them­selves and just par­rot the party line. I may be mis­taken, but that seems to me to be the afflic­tion to which Mr. Drunk is referring.

    As soon as some­one adopts the label “lib­eral” or “con­ser­v­a­tive,” I no longer con­sider their opin­ions of any value. When some­one starts throw­ing “fuck­ing neo­con,” “fuck­ing lib­eral,” and “fas­cist but­t­fucker” around, then I study their opin­ion care­fully to make sure they haven’t inad­ver­tently said any­thing true. That usu­ally isn’t a problem.

  • http://rip-ragged.com/dross Rip Ragged

    Hmmm.

    Wow. A lot of energy here. I read the orig­i­nal post and thought, “Yeah, okay. Fuck the retards who can’t engage in a rea­son­able dis­cus­sion.” Then there fol­lows a whole litany of anger (from peo­ple who seem to fit the bill).

    I come down on the con­ser­v­a­tive side of most polit­i­cal dis­cus­sions (not all, but most); that said, I get just as pissed at being called a con­ser­v­a­tive as a lib­eral. I notice that once peo­ple accept a label like that, they tend to stop think­ing for them­selves and just par­rot the party line. I may be mis­taken, but that seems to me to be the afflic­tion to which Mr. Drunk is referring.

    As soon as some­one adopts the label “lib­eral” or “con­ser­v­a­tive,” I no longer con­sider their opin­ions of any value. When some­one starts throw­ing “fuck­ing neo­con,” “fuck­ing lib­eral,” and “fas­cist but­t­fucker” around, then I study their opin­ion care­fully to make sure they haven’t inad­ver­tently said any­thing true. That usu­ally isn’t a problem.

  • http://twitter.com/dwarfland dwarfland

    Jeez, who let out the Ayn Rand fans?

  • http://twitter.com/dwarfland dwarfland

    Jeez, who let out the Ayn Rand fans?

  • http://www.theangrydrunk.com The Angry Drunk

    @dwarfland: You’re telling me. It’s like the Randites have a crack team of inter­net war­riors wait­ing to deploy the first sec­ond some­one sug­gests that the mem­bers of a soci­ety have some rudi­men­tary duty to care for other people.

  • http://www.theangrydrunk.com The Angry Drunk

    @dwarfland: You’re telling me. It’s like the Randites have a crack team of inter­net war­riors wait­ing to deploy the first sec­ond some­one sug­gests that the mem­bers of a soci­ety have some rudi­men­tary duty to care for other people.

  • Gatesbasher

    What slays me is how they think that “their money,” when they’re allowed to keep all of it, will be worth any­thing after they’ve destroyed the gov­ern­ment that issued it.

  • Gatesbasher

    What slays me is how they think that “their money,” when they’re allowed to keep all of it, will be worth any­thing after they’ve destroyed the gov­ern­ment that issued it.

  • http://twitter.com/dwarfland dwarfland

    @The Angry Drunk:

    don’t get me wrong, though, what would we do for com­edy with­out these guys? noth­ing beats a weekly dose of cap​mag​.com to get those laugh­ing mus­cles flexing…

  • http://twitter.com/dwarfland dwarfland

    @The Angry Drunk:

    don’t get me wrong, though, what would we do for com­edy with­out these guys? noth­ing beats a weekly dose of cap​mag​.com to get those laugh­ing mus­cles flexing…

  • Joe

    still, almost patient­lym wait­ing for answers to my questions.

  • Joe

    still, almost patient­lym wait­ing for answers to my questions.

  • http://www.theangrydrunk.com The Angry Drunk

    @Joe: What? Don’t make the mis­take of think­ing that I’m here to engage in a dia­log with any­one who deigns to leave a com­ment. And I sure as shit don’t have the time or energy to deflate every bull­shit argu­ment that gets flung out there. Don’t like it, the close but­ton on your browser works just fine.

  • http://www.theangrydrunk.com The Angry Drunk

    @Joe: What? Don’t make the mis­take of think­ing that I’m here to engage in a dia­log with any­one who deigns to leave a com­ment. And I sure as shit don’t have the time or energy to deflate every bull­shit argu­ment that gets flung out there. Don’t like it, the close but­ton on your browser works just fine.

  • Joe

    That cracks me up. One sided then, you respond when you agree. What’s the use. I will use the close button!

    I thought you actu­ally might be inter­ested in debat­ing things, but I guess your not. I should have fig­ured that out with your first com­ment. Glad the world isn’t full of fools like you! I’m at least will­ing to hear what some­one else has to say and respond to it!

    This is your blog so do as you please. Live your life how you see fit, that’s what makes America great!

  • Joe

    That cracks me up. One sided then, you respond when you agree. What’s the use. I will use the close button!

    I thought you actu­ally might be inter­ested in debat­ing things, but I guess your not. I should have fig­ured that out with your first com­ment. Glad the world isn’t full of fools like you! I’m at least will­ing to hear what some­one else has to say and respond to it!

    This is your blog so do as you please. Live your life how you see fit, that’s what makes America great!

  • http://ripragged.blogspot.com Anonymous

    @fellow com­men­tards…

    Hear, hear. Let’s hear it for the blogosphere.

    The great thing about being a blog­ger is that we can just rant on. We can be deadly seri­ous or com­pletely friv­o­lous. Sometimes all in the same post. We can be one– two– three– or four-sided (five is push­ing it). Sometimes with­out telling any­one which is which. If some­one doesn’t like it, they’re free to add a “Cindy Sux,” agree or dis­agree, or just move along. We’re free to engage or ignore all com­ers. We promise noth­ing. We deliver.

    And we can do it all wear­ing noth­ing but a cig­a­rette and a smile.

    If you think what you have to say is more impor­tant or bet­ter than what we have to say, get your own fuck­ing blog. We did.

  • http://rip-ragged.com/dross Rip Ragged

    @fellow com­men­tards…

    Hear, hear. Let’s hear it for the blogosphere.

    The great thing about being a blog­ger is that we can just rant on. We can be deadly seri­ous or com­pletely friv­o­lous. Sometimes all in the same post. We can be one– two– three– or four-sided (five is push­ing it). Sometimes with­out telling any­one which is which. If some­one doesn’t like it, they’re free to add a “Cindy Sux,” agree or dis­agree, or just move along. We’re free to engage or ignore all com­ers. We promise noth­ing. We deliver.

    And we can do it all wear­ing noth­ing but a cig­a­rette and a smile.

    If you think what you have to say is more impor­tant or bet­ter than what we have to say, get your own fuck­ing blog. We did.

  • http://diskgrinder.blogspot.com diskgrinder

    I know how to solve this prob­lem that you guys (clearly you are guys) have erected here: carry on being self­ish until you fuck up and then the gub­ber­mint to bail you out with $700 fuck­ing bil­lion. That’s one big fucker of a wel­fare cheque to keep you in caviar, whores and SUVs.

    You shit on about how you make so much money you shouldn’t have to worry about peo­ple who don’t (make so much money, win­dowlick­ers) yet when the crunch comes and you are lever­aged up the sphinc­ter with debt you spinned up your­selves — what do you want? A gov­ern­ment handout.

    Irony (not a syn­onym for steely) is that because taxes were paid, there’s money there to do that for you. No tax, no handout.

    Fuck off my planet, you vile men­di­cants, bound­ers and fuck­ing cads that you are.

  • http://diskgrinder.blogspot.com diskgrinder

    I know how to solve this prob­lem that you guys (clearly you are guys) have erected here: carry on being self­ish until you fuck up and then the gub­ber­mint to bail you out with $700 fuck­ing bil­lion. That’s one big fucker of a wel­fare cheque to keep you in caviar, whores and SUVs.

    You shit on about how you make so much money you shouldn’t have to worry about peo­ple who don’t (make so much money, win­dowlick­ers) yet when the crunch comes and you are lever­aged up the sphinc­ter with debt you spinned up your­selves — what do you want? A gov­ern­ment handout.

    Irony (not a syn­onym for steely) is that because taxes were paid, there’s money there to do that for you. No tax, no handout.

    Fuck off my planet, you vile men­di­cants, bound­ers and fuck­ing cads that you are.

  • http://www.theangrydrunk.com The Angry Drunk

    @diskgrinder: Heh, I really should revisit this lit­tle gem in light of the last two weeks’ shenani­gans. Government assis­tance don’t seem so hor­ri­ble now, does it you rich twats.

  • http://www.theangrydrunk.com The Angry Drunk

    @diskgrinder: Heh, I really should revisit this lit­tle gem in light of the last two weeks’ shenani­gans. Government assis­tance don’t seem so hor­ri­ble now, does it you rich twats.

  • http://diskgrinder.blogspot.com diskgrinder

    @Joe: Answer to your ques­tion, Joe. Yes, I think peo­ple who make over 250K should con­tribute back to the soci­ety that gave them the oppor­tu­nity to make that salary. Do you think they just did that all on their own? Do you think that infra­struc­ture, schools and health (I live in UK and have the ben­e­fit of free health, thanks Mr. Bevan) costs noth­ing? Do you want peo­ple with no money, and no prospect of get­ting money, just to die? Is that your the­sis? If you’re not lucky enough to hit the jack­pot in capri­cious mar­kets then you should get out of the way?

    Here’s an exam­ple — the guy who invented Hula Hoops made a mint. That’s cool for him, lucky he hit the mar­ket when a craze for daft pur­suits was ascen­dant. Then there’s the guy who invented RSA pub­lic key encryp­tion 30 years before it got patented — he worked for GCHQ in the UK as a civil ser­vant and died drib­bling in a care home. Unlucky that his inven­tion got D-noticed by UK secret ser­vice, but nonethe­less tal­ented. He could have been a very rich chap, but because he worked in a super-secret cold war bunker he had no way to make money.

    So you are wrong. And trot­ting out the trailer park homily is an inverse of argu­men­tum ad hominem: your argu­ment doesn’t get any cre­dence because of who you are.

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    @Joe: Answer to your ques­tion, Joe. Yes, I think peo­ple who make over 250K should con­tribute back to the soci­ety that gave them the oppor­tu­nity to make that salary. Do you think they just did that all on their own? Do you think that infra­struc­ture, schools and health (I live in UK and have the ben­e­fit of free health, thanks Mr. Bevan) costs noth­ing? Do you want peo­ple with no money, and no prospect of get­ting money, just to die? Is that your the­sis? If you’re not lucky enough to hit the jack­pot in capri­cious mar­kets then you should get out of the way?

    Here’s an exam­ple — the guy who invented Hula Hoops made a mint. That’s cool for him, lucky he hit the mar­ket when a craze for daft pur­suits was ascen­dant. Then there’s the guy who invented RSA pub­lic key encryp­tion 30 years before it got patented — he worked for GCHQ in the UK as a civil ser­vant and died drib­bling in a care home. Unlucky that his inven­tion got D-noticed by UK secret ser­vice, but nonethe­less tal­ented. He could have been a very rich chap, but because he worked in a super-secret cold war bunker he had no way to make money.

    So you are wrong. And trot­ting out the trailer park homily is an inverse of argu­men­tum ad hominem: your argu­ment doesn’t get any cre­dence because of who you are.

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    @The Angry Drunk: Absolutely. Fuck them in the eye, as my maiden aunt Daphne used to say.

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    @The Angry Drunk: Absolutely. Fuck them in the eye, as my maiden aunt Daphne used to say.

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    @Joe: Oh, actu­ally you said “basic needs” some­thing, some­thing, blah, 250k. So maybe you do believe that peo­ple earn­ing shit­loads should pay taxes? Not clear on your argu­ment there.

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    @Joe: Oh, actu­ally you said “basic needs” some­thing, some­thing, blah, 250k. So maybe you do believe that peo­ple earn­ing shit­loads should pay taxes? Not clear on your argu­ment there.

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    @Rip Ragged: very fine. Agree with you absolutely, except at those points you made that I don’t agree with. Clearly you are wrong there. But, for those things I do I agree with, then I have to con­cede you are right.

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    @Rip Ragged: very fine. Agree with you absolutely, except at those points you made that I don’t agree with. Clearly you are wrong there. But, for those things I do I agree with, then I have to con­cede you are right.