You Want Something to Bitch About?

Try this. Seriously Apple, get yo’ shit together.

  • Bryan Payne

    Maybe, just maybe, instead of writ­ing a whiny ass blog post, this retard should con­tact Apple Legal and run this sit­u­a­tion by them so that he can get a real answer.

  • Bryan Payne

    Maybe, just maybe, instead of writ­ing a whiny ass blog post, this retard should con­tact Apple Legal and run this sit­u­a­tion by them so that he can get a real answer.

  • http://www.theangrydrunk.com The Angry Drunk

    @Bryan Payne: Yeah, this prob­a­bly wasn’t the best post on the topic to link to; but I’ve been a bit busy being chided by the defend­ers of free­dom and inter­net civil­ity. What I was going for is that the never-ending NDA is some­thing that actu­ally is sti­fling open iPhone development.

  • http://www.theangrydrunk.com The Angry Drunk

    @Bryan Payne: Yeah, this prob­a­bly wasn’t the best post on the topic to link to; but I’ve been a bit busy being chided by the defend­ers of free­dom and inter­net civil­ity. What I was going for is that the never-ending NDA is some­thing that actu­ally is sti­fling open iPhone development.

  • Cody Brimhall

    @Bryan Payne: Seriously, man, where’s all that anger com­ing from? Maybe you shouldn’t post on any more forums until you’ve worked that out.

    And any­way, as an expe­ri­enced pub­lisher, I doubt that it just didn’t occur to Dave to give the likely sus­pects at Apple a ring. Apple has really made a mess of this NDA thing, and I think the point of his post was to ask for help get­ting in touch with some­one who actu­ally makes deci­sions. You know, the peo­ple that don’t pub­lish their phone num­bers because they have more impor­tant things to do than field calls about sup­port­ing Ogg and open sourc­ing the API.

    Hardly whin­ing, and hardly retarded. I know this isn’t exactly the place for enforc­ing civil­ity, but at least our drunken friend usu­ally has a good point to make.

  • Cody Brimhall

    @Bryan Payne: Seriously, man, where’s all that anger com­ing from? Maybe you shouldn’t post on any more forums until you’ve worked that out.

    And any­way, as an expe­ri­enced pub­lisher, I doubt that it just didn’t occur to Dave to give the likely sus­pects at Apple a ring. Apple has really made a mess of this NDA thing, and I think the point of his post was to ask for help get­ting in touch with some­one who actu­ally makes deci­sions. You know, the peo­ple that don’t pub­lish their phone num­bers because they have more impor­tant things to do than field calls about sup­port­ing Ogg and open sourc­ing the API.

    Hardly whin­ing, and hardly retarded. I know this isn’t exactly the place for enforc­ing civil­ity, but at least our drunken friend usu­ally has a good point to make.

  • Bryan Payne

    @Cody Brimhall: Nowhere in his orig­i­nal post did he men­tion that he had already attempted to con­tact some­one at Apple regard­ing this issue. When mak­ing a post like that, it might have been use­ful infor­ma­tion to include. In his com­ments on his blog, he cleared that up, and I retract my state­ment. He still should have dis­closed that infor­ma­tion, oth­er­wise it just sounded like a whiny enti­tle­ment issue.

  • Bryan Payne

    @Cody Brimhall: Nowhere in his orig­i­nal post did he men­tion that he had already attempted to con­tact some­one at Apple regard­ing this issue. When mak­ing a post like that, it might have been use­ful infor­ma­tion to include. In his com­ments on his blog, he cleared that up, and I retract my state­ment. He still should have dis­closed that infor­ma­tion, oth­er­wise it just sounded like a whiny enti­tle­ment issue.

  • http://ripragged.blogspot.com Anonymous

    Dear Mr. Angry Drunk,

    What the fuck is Internet Civility? It sounds nice, but what does it mean? A new entry for the book of oxy­morons? That sounds like the mod­ern equiv­a­lent of Microsoft Works, to me.

    Damn.

  • http://ripragged.com/dross Rip Ragged

    Dear Mr. Angry Drunk,

    What the fuck is Internet Civility? It sounds nice, but what does it mean? A new entry for the book of oxy­morons? That sounds like the mod­ern equiv­a­lent of Microsoft Works, to me.

    Damn.

  • http://tewha.net Steven Fisher

    I can’t imag­ine the NDA is phrased in such a way that he’s allowed to openly dis­cuss every­one he’s talked to try­ing to get the NDA finalized.

    It’d be a funky set of Fight Club rules that allowed peo­ple to talk about Fight Club.

  • http://tewha.net Steven Fisher

    I can’t imag­ine the NDA is phrased in such a way that he’s allowed to openly dis­cuss every­one he’s talked to try­ing to get the NDA finalized.

    It’d be a funky set of Fight Club rules that allowed peo­ple to talk about Fight Club.

  • http://pragdave.pragprog.com Dave Thomas

    @Steven Fisher: Fortunately, I haven’t signed the NDA. But our authors have had to.

    ANd still no response to e-mails sent to sev­eral folks you I’m told are in a posi­tion to let us know what’s going on…

  • http://pragdave.pragprog.com Dave Thomas

    @Steven Fisher: Fortunately, I haven’t signed the NDA. But our authors have had to.

    ANd still no response to e-mails sent to sev­eral folks you I’m told are in a posi­tion to let us know what’s going on…