You Want Something to Bitch About?

View CommentsYou Want Something to Bitch About?

• Bryan Payne

  July 18, 2008 at 3:45 pm

  Maybe, just maybe, instead of writing a whiny ass blog post, this retard should contact Apple Legal and run this situation by them so that he can get a real answer.

• The Angry Drunk

  July 18, 2008 at 4:23 pm

  @Bryan Payne:
  Yeah, this probably wasn’t the best post on the topic to link to; but I’ve been a bit busy being chided by the defenders of freedom and internet civility. What I was going for is that the never-ending NDA is something that actually is stifling open iPhone development.

• Cody Brimhall

  July 18, 2008 at 4:50 pm

  @Bryan Payne:
  Seriously, man, where’s all that anger coming from? Maybe you shouldn’t post on any more forums until you’ve worked that out.

  And anyway, as an experienced publisher, I doubt that it just didn’t occur to Dave to give the likely suspects at Apple a ring. Apple has really made a mess of this NDA thing, and I think the point of his post was to ask for help getting in touch with someone who actually makes decisions. You know, the people that don’t publish their phone numbers because they have more important things to do than field calls about supporting Ogg and open sourcing the API.

  Hardly whining, and hardly retarded. I know this isn’t exactly the place for enforcing civility, but at least our drunken friend usually has a good point to make.

• Bryan Payne

  July 18, 2008 at 5:41 pm

  @Cody Brimhall: Nowhere in his original post did he mention that he had already attempted to contact someone at Apple regarding this issue. When making a post like that, it might have been useful information to include. In his comments on his blog, he cleared that up, and I retract my statement. He still should have disclosed that information, otherwise it just sounded like a whiny entitlement issue.

• Rip Ragged

  July 18, 2008 at 7:41 pm

  Dear Mr. Angry Drunk,

  What the fuck is Internet Civility? It sounds nice, but what does it mean? A new entry for the book of oxymorons? That sounds like the modern equivalent of Microsoft Works, to me.

  Damn.

• Steven Fisher

  July 20, 2008 at 4:56 pm

  I can’t imagine the NDA is phrased in such a way that he’s allowed to openly discuss everyone he’s talked to trying to get the NDA finalized.

  It’d be a funky set of Fight Club rules that allowed people to talk about Fight Club.

• Dave Thomas

  July 23, 2008 at 7:10 am

  @Steven Fisher: Fortunately, I haven’t signed the NDA. But our authors have had to.

  ANd still no response to e-mails sent to several folks you I’m told are in a position to let us know what’s going on…