All formats that are encumbered by software patents. So, where is the lie again?

The lie is that Ogg is most likely also encumbered by patents. It just hasn’t been tested in court yet. That’s why companies such as Apple are wary of it.

As a matter of fact, if Apple (or microsoft, etc) did go ahead and implement Ogg as many FOSS fans are screaming for – then it most likely would result in a legal attack, taking Ogg away from the FOSS fans themselves (as much as it could be taken away). Is that what they want?

You don’t like their views point out that they’re fucking retards breathing up perfectly good oxygen for no apparent reason.

I do.

I’m just sayin’.

I’m sorry, but ” if you don’t like their views, don’t read em” just doesn’t cut it.
Honestly, how do you even come up with a comment like that?
Umm, how about the fact that, had I not read their views, how would I know if I agree or not?
So now that I’ve suddenly discovered that fsf is full of fearmongering whack jobs. I wish to detail the reasons that they are factually incorrect..

But, you know, I’m just sayin’ is all..

Second, dialing 911 has fuck all to do with CoreLocation or the OS in general; it’s a feature of the phone and, in the U.S. at least, providing GPS when dialing 911 is mandated by law. Do you really want the phone to not provide your location when calling for emergency services. There is a point where you’ve taken “freedom” just a little too far.

Lastly, just because the FSF claims that Ogg is not patent-encumbered doesn’t make it so. There are those of the opinion that Ogg is in violation of at least one major patent.

Wee bit more on AAC

The fact that you see that dialog does not mean that what the FSF said was wrong. The iPhone won’t give you that dialog when you dial 911. (Their problem here is that any other phone would be required to do that as well.)

However, that’s not anything Apple nor any other phone manufacturer in the US can do anything about. They’re required to provide location info to 911 automatically so, you know, you can actually get the help you’re calling for.

For the FSF to use that to imply Apple is allowing any and all to track you is an absolute falsehood, and they know that. So they’re stilly lying weasels about that.

All formats that are encumbered by software patents. So, where is the lie again?

Interestingly, there’s some current thought that the only reason Ogg hasn’t been really scrutinized there is because honestly, no one of consequence is using it.

The other thing is, again, without regards to ideology, Ogg is not “better enough” to justify everyone switching to it. It’s a good codec. So is AAC. Both are somewhat better than MP3.

But barring Ogg suddenly being ASTOUNDINGLY better than everything else, why switch?

“BULLSHIT. When any app wants to use CoreLocation on the iPhone, you are presented with a big fat Do Not Allow button, and you can push it if you want. Does that sound like it’s accessing your location without your knowledge?”

The fact that you see that dialog does not mean that what the FSF said was wrong. The iPhone won’t give you that dialog when you dial 911. (Their problem here is that any other phone would be required to do that as well.)

“They’re also guilty of lies by omission. The FSF said: ‘iPhone won’t play patent- and DRM-free formats like Ogg Vorbis and Theora.’

“But the iPhone DOES play DRM-free formats like MP3, MP4, WAV, AIFF, Lossless, etc. Why do you suppose they left that out? Could it be because that would kind of derail their entire idiotic, oh I’m sorry ‘logical’ proposition?”

All formats that are encumbered by software patents. So, where is the lie again?