Comments on: Oh for the Love of God!

By: Medela metro bag

Medela metro bag — Fri, 29 May 2009 09:00:35 +0000

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By: jonah

jonah — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 08:07:16 +0000

Yeah, this is all a big fuss about nothing. However, opt-out is the tactic of the spammer. Just sayin’.

By: Heart_Man_2000

Heart_Man_2000 — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 02:33:32 +0000

I can’t understand all the fuss. If you don’t want Apple software on your Windows machine, don’t install it in the first place. It’s called freedom of choice.

By: Darren Meyer

Darren Meyer — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:49:07 +0000

Asa isn’t whining about Apple doing exactly what he asked for — he originally asked to have Apple make new software more clear (they did now), *and* to have the box unchecked by default. Apple did part of what he originally wanted: now he’s saying “good job, but please don’t stop there.”

It’s a pretty simple issue. If you’re using something to update existing software, that’s what it should do. If it’s going to offer to install *new* software, fine — but users should have to accept the new software if they want it, not reject it if they don’t. Google Apps does this very right, Apple doesn’t.

And yes, Firefox has some default behaviors that are unfortunate as well (“always check” should default to off, and the initial “set me as default?” dialog should have “Yes”, “No”, and “No, and don’t ask me again” as choices ).

The question here isn’t whether someone else in the browser market is doing a better job than Apple, the point is that Apple is doing something that undermines users’ trust in software updaters. If people don’t trust their updaters not to give them new software, they’ll just turn them off, thus leaving security holes all over the place — and that’s worse for us all.

By: joecab

joecab — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:25:47 +0000

Paranoid little me says this was Apple’s plan all along, because if they started off by offering Safari in the update window as an alternative, people would bitch and moan about that as well, and they’d have no lesser evil to go back to aside from removing it all together. You can’t ever underestimate the public’s ability for misplaced indignation and stupidity.

By: josef

josef — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 12:16:55 +0000

Step 1. Read of Asa’s comment on Daring Fireball
Step 2. Check Darby’s counterpoint, also via Daring Fireball.
Step 3. Read comments. (Cheeks hurt from laughing so hard.)
Step 4. Fall in love with this blog and wonder where it’s been all my life.
Off to spelunk the Angry Drunk for more gems!

By: Zo

Zo — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 10:33:09 +0000

Best fucking comment thread *ever.*

By: Partners in Grime

Partners in Grime — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 02:50:19 +0000

Maybe the whiners should read before they click?

By: Travis

Travis — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 00:36:52 +0000

@John C. Welch: That’s sounds like a fantastic place! Is there some way I can visit it?

By: Rob Moir

Rob Moir — Sat, 19 Apr 2008 22:32:34 +0000

It’s funny that because it’s Apple doing something it’s OK. I think we’d never hear the end of it if Microsoft dropped something onto your Mac that behaved the same way.

The point to me is that regardless of whether or not you think it makes people “terminally stupid”, they think in a certain way, and either Apple are ignorant of how users interact with their computer or they’re all too aware and are exploiting it on purpose for some reason.

And either explanation worries me.