Today’s Whiny MacMeme Is…

Second, bitch­ing that any­one

  • http://growinglogic.com Michael Simmons

    We’ve never met, but I love you.

  • http://growinglogic.com Michael Simmons

    We’ve never met, but I love you.

  • Vagina

    If Microsoft does it, so can we! Yay standards.

  • Vagina

    If Microsoft does it, so can we! Yay standards.

  • daniel

    I love you.

  • daniel

    I love you.

  • Matthew Olson

    Here here!!

  • Matthew Olson

    Here here!!

  • Kambei

    True and hilar­i­ous! Thanks.

  • http://hansacross.wordpress.com Hans Dekker

    Bullshit, Angry Drunk. It IS the end of the world. Installing a whole new app that those poor Windows users didn’t even ask for deserves harsh crit­i­cism and some real world wide whin­ing. If that didn’t hap­pen, how would any­thing ever change? Boy, if you want to use your belt on any­one use it on Apple. And then on Microsoft. And then on Apple again, just for good measure.

  • Kambei

    True and hilar­i­ous! Thanks.

  • http://hansacross.wordpress.com Hans Dekker

    Bullshit, Angry Drunk. It IS the end of the world. Installing a whole new app that those poor Windows users didn’t even ask for deserves harsh crit­i­cism and some real world wide whin­ing. If that didn’t hap­pen, how would any­thing ever change? Boy, if you want to use your belt on any­one use it on Apple. And then on Microsoft. And then on Apple again, just for good measure.

  • Hans

    Hans D: I am a Windows user. I didn’t ask for IE, nor do I have any use for it. And yet, years ago Microsoft bun­dled IE with Windows and didn’t give me a choice whether or not I wanted it. Did I like it? No. Did it pay off for them? Yes. Does any­one seem to care any­more? Doesn’t seem like it. At least in Apple’s case, they are giv­ing users a choice whether they want it or not.

  • Hans

    Hans D: I am a Windows user. I didn’t ask for IE, nor do I have any use for it. And yet, years ago Microsoft bun­dled IE with Windows and didn’t give me a choice whether or not I wanted it. Did I like it? No. Did it pay off for them? Yes. Does any­one seem to care any­more? Doesn’t seem like it. At least in Apple’s case, they are giv­ing users a choice whether they want it or not.

  • James

    “one turd in a sea of shit” Genius! — I love you too Angry Drunk. You are my best mate. Give us a kiss.

  • James

    “one turd in a sea of shit” Genius! — I love you too Angry Drunk. You are my best mate. Give us a kiss.

  • http://tosj.blogspot.com theother­steve­jobs

    safari is at least benign crap­ware — how can any­one get their feath­ers ruf­fled talk­ing about unin­tended crap­ware on win­dows when most of it actu­ally makes life dif­fi­cult by tak­ing up CPU cycles? That’s like bitch­ing about there being too much air in the room. Safari just sits there, doing noth­ing, until you use it, and hon­estly, if you can say that about soft­ware on Windows, you’re actu­ally in the upper echelon.

  • http://tosj.blogspot.com theother­steve­jobs

    safari is at least benign crap­ware — how can any­one get their feath­ers ruf­fled talk­ing about unin­tended crap­ware on win­dows when most of it actu­ally makes life dif­fi­cult by tak­ing up CPU cycles? That’s like bitch­ing about there being too much air in the room. Safari just sits there, doing noth­ing, until you use it, and hon­estly, if you can say that about soft­ware on Windows, you’re actu­ally in the upper echelon.

  • http://sterlinganderson.net/ ster­ling

    Best…post…ever…

  • http://sterlinganderson.net/ ster­ling

    Best…post…ever…

  • dick­ens

    Wait… so… if Microsoft does it, it’s okay?

    We’ve started hold­ing Apple to the stan­dards estab­lished by Microsoft, not a high stan­dard? Really?

  • dick­ens

    Wait… so… if Microsoft does it, it’s okay?

    We’ve started hold­ing Apple to the stan­dards estab­lished by Microsoft, not a high stan­dard? Really?

  • http://laurenherda.com Lauren

    Was Apple wrong? Perhaps. Justified? Absolutely.

    Microsoft defined the rules of play for the Windows world, and Apple’s just play­ing by them. It’s just that now every­one has a rea­son to slap them down and make noise about how “bad” Apple is. At least Apple’s not slip­ping BAD soft­ware on people.

    I say… fuck yeah, Apple. Fuck yeah.

  • http://laurenherda.com Lauren

    Was Apple wrong? Perhaps. Justified? Absolutely.

    Microsoft defined the rules of play for the Windows world, and Apple’s just play­ing by them. It’s just that now every­one has a rea­son to slap them down and make noise about how “bad” Apple is. At least Apple’s not slip­ping BAD soft­ware on people.

    I say… fuck yeah, Apple. Fuck yeah.

  • Logan’s Rum

    What about the argu­ment that MS has accus­tomed Windows users into think­ing that being butt-fucked is an accept­able mode of IT inter­ac­tion, and Apple’s best strat­egy is to con­trast that? If Apple can make the point to Windows users that butt-fucking is not accept­able, because we can do busi­ness with­out butt-fucking you, then Windows becomes less acceptable.

    If, how­ever, Apple starts butt-fucking peo­ple, then the dif­fer­ence between the two prod­ucts is harder to detect.

    Of course, if it really just involves un-checking a “Software Update” box, then come on. They kind of butt-fucked them­selves on that one. Which is an unpleas­ant image actually.

  • Logan’s Rum

    What about the argu­ment that MS has accus­tomed Windows users into think­ing that being butt-fucked is an accept­able mode of IT inter­ac­tion, and Apple’s best strat­egy is to con­trast that? If Apple can make the point to Windows users that butt-fucking is not accept­able, because we can do busi­ness with­out butt-fucking you, then Windows becomes less acceptable.

    If, how­ever, Apple starts butt-fucking peo­ple, then the dif­fer­ence between the two prod­ucts is harder to detect.

    Of course, if it really just involves un-checking a “Software Update” box, then come on. They kind of butt-fucked them­selves on that one. Which is an unpleas­ant image actually.

  • DBL

    It’s embar­rass­ing the dou­ble stan­dard that goes on when eval­u­at­ing the exact same behav­iour com­ing from Apple vs. Microsoft. And I hate MIcrosoft and have used a Mac all my life, and it is plainly obvi­ous to me that if Microsoft did the same thing on the Mac, ALL THE SAME PEOPLE would be tak­ing the exact oppo­site posi­tion. Especially John ‘The Komissar’ Gruber.

  • DBL

    It’s embar­rass­ing the dou­ble stan­dard that goes on when eval­u­at­ing the exact same behav­iour com­ing from Apple vs. Microsoft. And I hate MIcrosoft and have used a Mac all my life, and it is plainly obvi­ous to me that if Microsoft did the same thing on the Mac, ALL THE SAME PEOPLE would be tak­ing the exact oppo­site posi­tion. Especially John ‘The Komissar’ Gruber.

  • http://www.theangrydrunk.com The Angry Drunk

    Well, I sup­pose I should wel­come all the traf­fic from Daring Fireball. I was going to write some long ass update explain­ing exactly how a good chunk of the com­ments so far have com­pletely missed the point; but then I real­ized I had bet­ter things to do.

    So, to every­one who got it, cheers. To those bitch­ing, thanks for prov­ing my point in the best pos­si­ble way. Stay whiny, because gods know I have anger issues to work out.

  • http://www.theangrydrunk.com The Angry Drunk

    Well, I sup­pose I should wel­come all the traf­fic from Daring Fireball. I was going to write some long ass update explain­ing exactly how a good chunk of the com­ments so far have com­pletely missed the point; but then I real­ized I had bet­ter things to do.

    So, to every­one who got it, cheers. To those bitch­ing, thanks for prov­ing my point in the best pos­si­ble way. Stay whiny, because gods know I have anger issues to work out.

  • sam­critchlow

    Brilliant! In my eyes the post to end all posts about this pathetic issue.

    Hello from a Daring Fireball reader and a new Angry Drunk subscriber.

  • sam­critchlow

    Brilliant! In my eyes the post to end all posts about this pathetic issue.

    Hello from a Daring Fireball reader and a new Angry Drunk subscriber.

  • http://seoxys.com ken­neth

    L-O-V-E-L-Y! :P

  • http://seoxys.com ken­neth

    L-O-V-E-L-Y! :P

  • http://www.kapowaz.net/ Ben Darlow

    Sorry dude, you’re just plain wrong. As an OS X user, I am accus­tomed to Apple’s soft­ware and appre­ci­ate it. To a Windows user, it is for­eign and unknown. I think they’re cat­e­gor­i­cally wrong to say that (for instance) Safari’s native font ren­der­ing is worse than Windows ClearType, but that’s moot; they still believe it, and so any­thing that forces some­thing which they per­ceive to be infe­rior onto them will nat­u­rally pro­voke their ire.

    Now, you’re right to say that there is indeed a stink­ing sea of putrid­ness out there in Windows soft­ware­land, but how exactly is it defen­si­ble to say that just because such a sce­nario exists Apple shouldn’t try to do things bet­ter? Like, say, they do on the Mac?

  • http://www.kapowaz.net/ Ben Darlow

    Sorry dude, you’re just plain wrong. As an OS X user, I am accus­tomed to Apple’s soft­ware and appre­ci­ate it. To a Windows user, it is for­eign and unknown. I think they’re cat­e­gor­i­cally wrong to say that (for instance) Safari’s native font ren­der­ing is worse than Windows ClearType, but that’s moot; they still believe it, and so any­thing that forces some­thing which they per­ceive to be infe­rior onto them will nat­u­rally pro­voke their ire.

    Now, you’re right to say that there is indeed a stink­ing sea of putrid­ness out there in Windows soft­ware­land, but how exactly is it defen­si­ble to say that just because such a sce­nario exists Apple shouldn’t try to do things bet­ter? Like, say, they do on the Mac?

  • http://ben.hoskings.net Ben Hoskings

    Right on tar­get and lulz to boot? An inter­net to you, sir.

  • http://ben.hoskings.net Ben Hoskings

    Right on tar­get and lulz to boot? An inter­net to you, sir.

  • Doug

    One par­tic­u­larly stinky turd in a sea of Shit.… Smells like a refresh­ing change to me.

  • Doug

    One par­tic­u­larly stinky turd in a sea of Shit.… Smells like a refresh­ing change to me.

  • Henry

    And per­haps single-handedly, Apple makes the web so much bet­ter for every­one. I don’t use Windows thank­fully, but I do hope it auto­mat­i­cally becomes the default browser, espe­cially when those Windows vic­tims click on the “Internet on the desk­top” IE icon.

    Of course if they did, then we might have cause for com­plaint. Otherwise, who cares.

  • Henry

    And per­haps single-handedly, Apple makes the web so much bet­ter for every­one. I don’t use Windows thank­fully, but I do hope it auto­mat­i­cally becomes the default browser, espe­cially when those Windows vic­tims click on the “Internet on the desk­top” IE icon.

    Of course if they did, then we might have cause for com­plaint. Otherwise, who cares.

  • http://zajac.ca/ Michael Zed

    Isn’t there a legal find­ings of fact still on the U.S. books which says that Microsoft is being a monop­o­list by bundling MSIE?

    It’s prac­ti­cally Apple’s civic duty to shove Safari up Americans’ noses.

  • http://zajac.ca/ Michael Zed

    Isn’t there a legal find­ings of fact still on the U.S. books which says that Microsoft is being a monop­o­list by bundling MSIE?

    It’s prac­ti­cally Apple’s civic duty to shove Safari up Americans’ noses.

  • Step

    I’m a lit­tle dis­ap­pointed that no one so far told this dufus how to turn off Windows Update. ;)

    I slightly enjoyed the ego­tis­ti­cal trip into com­plain­ing that other peo­ple don’t have a right to com­plain. Followed by a com­pletely pre­dictable claim in the com­ments that Angry Drunk has “bet­ter things to do”. Like be angry and get drunk, obviously.

  • Step

    I’m a lit­tle dis­ap­pointed that no one so far told this dufus how to turn off Windows Update. ;)

    I slightly enjoyed the ego­tis­ti­cal trip into com­plain­ing that other peo­ple don’t have a right to com­plain. Followed by a com­pletely pre­dictable claim in the com­ments that Angry Drunk has “bet­ter things to do”. Like be angry and get drunk, obviously.

  • http://www.arcanology.com Al

    More like wank­ing issues to work out.

  • http://www.arcanology.com Al

    More like wank­ing issues to work out.

  • http://www.bynkii.com/ John C. Welch

    Step, what, you thought “The Angry Drunk” was a play on words?

  • http://www.bynkii.com/ John C. Welch

    Step, what, you thought “The Angry Drunk” was a play on words?